Major Engineering Panel Meeting Summary for November 2012


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Minutes for Major Engineering Panel Meeting
ISU Alumni Center, Room 119, Normal, IL Thursday, November 01, 2012
Members present: : Alan Edgecombe(Kishwaukee College), Krista Jackson(iTransfer System), Krista Jackson(iTransfer System), Joe Kotowski(Oakton Community College), Janice Leuchtenberg(iTransfer System), Tom McGinnis(John A. Logan College), Michael McNallan(University of Illinois at Chicago), Clark Niepert(University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign), Robert Podlasek(Bradley University), Umberto Ravaioli(University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign), David Smith(College of DuPage), Rob Twardock(College of Lake County)
Members present virtually: Chris Pearson(Southern Illinois University Carbondale), Jie Zou(Eastern Illinois University)
Members Absent: Eric Bell(Triton College), Kevin Bodden(Lewis & Clark Community College), Dan Cullen(Illinois Board of Higher Education), Omar Ghrayeb(Northern Illinois University), Adam Julian(iTransfer System), William Pratt(Western Illinois University), Rashid Robinson(Illinois Board of Higher Education), Dominic Sarsah(Illinois Valley Community College), Greg Welter(Illinois Institute of Technology)

Minutes

REVISED (Again, Sorry!)

 

  1.  Introductions and make sure technology is working.

 

  1. Course Review:

 

 

Courses for Five year review

1 courses

 

 

EGR942: Statics

 

Kaskaskia College

PSCI 203: Analytical Mechanics (Statics)

Final Decision : Accepted

 

 

 

 

 

 

New Courses

6 courses

 

EGR931L: Electrical Circuits

 

John Wood Community College

EGR 221: Electronic Circuit Analysis I

Final Decision : Returned

 

EGR932L: Digital Systems

 

Rock Valley College

EGR 250: Digital Electronics

Final Decision : Accepted

 

EGR941: Engineering Graphics/CAD

 

John Wood Community College

CAD 114: Introduction to Parametric Modeling

Final Decision : Returned

 

EGR942: Statics

 

John Wood Community College

EGR 203: Engineering Mechanics: Statics

Final Decision : Accepted

 

EGR943: Dynamics

 

John Wood Community College

EGR 204: Engineering Mechanics: Dynamics

Final Decision : Accepted

 

EGR945: Strength of Material/Mechanics of Solids

 

Southwestern Illinois College

ENGR 275: Mechanics of Solids

Final Decision : Accepted

 

 

Resubmitted Courses:

 

Resubmitted Courses for Five year review

1 courses

 

 

EGR941: Engineering Graphics/CAD

 

Wabash Valley College (IECC)

EGR 1131: Engineering Graphics and Design

Final Decision : Returned

 

 

 

Resubmitted Original Courses

0 courses

 

  1. Review Conditionally Approved Courses submitted and try to make decisions on them

 

  1.  IAI Information
    1. Website information, training and orientation discussion, questions from members about IAI
    2. EGR 941- Design and Graphics course
      1. Should transferability be driven by software choice (i.e. Pro/E, Solidworks)?
      2. There might be a problem with accreditation if Comm. Colleges don’t introduce A-K outcomes as Freshmen, Sophomores.
      3. GE at UIUC 101 eliminated 2D computer-aided drafting from course.  IAI description will emphasis free-hand sketching, consistent with 101 class (see document from Agenda)
      4. ME – 3 or 4 classes use Pro E beyond Intro course.  IAI description has always said Parametric 3D software and there are several.  Hate to get tied to one product.  Regionally, job market dictates different products.  Auto industry is Solid Works for example.  Market driven so choice changes.  Enterprenualship seems to be more prevalent in Mechanical than anywhere else.
      5. Vote on “imperfect descriptor” – representative of where course has been headed with more emphasis on design and 3D.  Compromise solution.  Main reason is for 2 yr to 4 yr migration not so much for 4 yr to 4 yr although that is also to be strived for. 
      6. Suggested to be silent on software choice but insist on 3D parametric.  Move to vote – Joe, 2nd by Rob.  Unanimous decision to approve.
      7. Panel will hold to this beginning in Spring 2014.  Joe, Bob and Rob will work on the communication to go out to IAI Contacts, TC’s, and Submitters.

 

  1.  Statewide Transfer Updates
    1. ICCB and IBHE together are trying to get Common Core going for GECC Comm. Writing I and Writing II with Speech Course.  All information on these websites:
      1. http://www.isbe.net/common_core/default.htm
      2. http://www.parcconline.org/
      3. PARCC is the reason this is happening.
        1. Illinois is one of 13 states doing this
        2. Once English Writing and Speech are aligned, they will move on to the Sciences.
    2. Legislation Update
      1. Seems to be on hold which means things are going well with IAI, legislators are seeing this.
      2. The only thing going forward is Women Working legislation planning.

 

 

 

  1.  Other items from members
    1. New proposed model for AES Degree – trying to find a more flexible model to make the AES degree a milestone on a student’s way to transfer and have more completers
      1. Panel suggests more flexible requirements for Humanities & Social Sciences that is more representative of student experience in the first two years.
      2. For the time being proposal lists “Computer programming” without a specific  IAI course
      3. Part 3 of the proposed model is  more flexible with a basket of courses students would take for their intended major.
    2. It was unanimously voted by the panel that the proposed model be submitted to ICCA for further review and action.
  1. 2013 meetings will be held Thursday, April 4, 2013 and Thursday, October 31, 2013 at either ISU Alumni Center or Heartland Comm. College. 

PROPOSED AES DEGREE (IAI Model)  Fall 2012
PART I: Associate in Engineering Science (A.E.S.) IAI GECC Recommendations (23-35 credits)
Communication: 2 courses (6 credits)
Select a two-course sequence in writing (6 semester credits) with a grade of "C" or better –
Composition I  (C1 900: 3 credits)
Composition II ( C1 901: 3 credits)
Mathematics: 3 courses (10-15 credits)
College Level Calculus I         (M1900-1: 4-5 credits)
College Level  Calculus  II (M1900-2: 3-5 credits)
College Level Calculus  III (M1900-3: 3-5 credits)
Physical and Life Sciences (4-5 credits)
General Chemistry I with lab (CHM911: 4-5 credits)
Combine the Humanities and Social and Behavioral Science sections – 3 to 9 credits in total from these two sections.
Humanities
Select from Humanities
Social and Behavioral Sciences
Select from Social and Behavioral Sciences
Principles of Microeconomics (S3902: 3 credits) is required in Industrial Engineering and recommended for other Engineering specialties.

PART II: Associate in Engineering Science (A.E.S.) IAI Major Recommendations (14 -18 credits)
Differential Equations (MTH 912: 3-4 credits)
Calculus-based Physics I   - Mechanics (with lab)  (PHY911: 4-5 credits)
Calculus-based Physics II – Electricity and Magnetism (with lab) (PHY912: 4-5 credits)
Computer Programming - structured modern language (3-4 credits)

PART III: Associate in Engineering Science (A.E.S.) Engineering Specialty Courses (12-20 credits)
Choose from the following  Engineering Core and Technical Elective courses - see recommendations below** for specific Engineering majors.
Engineering Core
Engineering Graphics/CAD (EGR 941: 2-4 Credits)
Statics (EGR 942: 2-3 semester credits)
Dynamics (EGR 943:2-3 semester credits)
Statics and Dynamics (EGR 944: 5 semester credits)  (credit not awarded for both EGR 944 and 941/942)
Strength of Materials/Mechanics of Solids (EGR 945: 3-4 semester credits)
Electrical Circuits (EGR 931: 3-4 semester credits)
Digital Systems (EGR 932: 3-4 semester credits)

Technical Electives
Computer Science II (CS 912: 3-4 semester credits)
Chemistry II (CHM 912:  4-5 semester hours)
Organic Chemistry I with lab (CHM 913: 4-5 semester credits)
Organic Chemistry II with lab (CHM 914: 3-4 semester credits)
Introduction to Linear Algebra (MTH 911: 3-4 semester credits)
Discrete Mathematics  (M1905: 3 semester credits)
Calculus-based Physics for Engineers III

TOTAL OF 60-68 HOURS FOR AES DEGREE

** Recommended Engineering Core/Technical Electives for Specific Engineering Majors
Students are strongly recommended to choose courses in consultation with an advisor to meet 4-year engineering school transfer requirements.
Undecided
EGR 941 - Engineering Graphics/CAD (2-4 semester hours)
EGR 942 - Statics (2-3 semester credits) and
EGR 943 - Dynamics (2-3 semester credits)
or take:
EGR 944 - [Combined] Statics and Dynamics (5 semester credits)
EGR 931 - Electrical Circuits (3-4 semester credits)
Chemical Engineering
CHM 912 - Chemistry II (4-5 semester hours)
CHM 913 - Organic Chemistry I with lab (4-5 semester credits)
CHM 914 - Organic Chemistry II with lab (3-4 semester credits)
Civil Engineering:
EGR 941 - Engineering Graphics/CAD (2-4 semester hours)
EGR 942 - Statics (2-3 semester credits) and
EGR 943 - Dynamics (2-3 semester credits)
or take:
EGR 944 - [Combined] Statics and Dynamics (5 semester credits)
EGR 945 - Strength of Materials/Mechanics of Solids (3-4 semester credits)
Computer Engineering
CS 912 - Computer Science II (3-4 semester credits)
EGR 931 - Electrical Circuits (3-4 semester credits)
EGR 932 - Digital Systems (3-4 semester credits)
Electrical Engineering
EGR 931 - Electrical Circuits (3-4 semester credits)
EGR 932 - Digital Systems (3-4 semester credits)
Industrial Engineering:
EGR 941 - Engineering Graphics/CAD (2-4 semester hours)
EGR 942 - Statics (2-3 semester credits) and
EGR 943 - Dynamics (2-3 semester credits)
or take:
EGR 944 - [Combined] Statics and Dynamics (5 semester credits)
EGR 945 - Strength of Materials/Mechanics of Solids (3-4 semester credits)
Mechanical Engineering
EGR 931 - Electrical Circuits (3-4 semester credits)
EGR 941 - Engineering Graphics/CAD (2-4 semester hours)
EGR 942 - Statics (2-3 semester credits) and
EGR 943 - Dynamics (2-3 semester credits)
or take:
EGR 944 - [Combined] Statics and Dynamics (5 semester credits)
EGR 945 - Strength of Materials/Mechanics of Solids (3-4 semester credits)
 

 

 

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